Does Your Wing Chun Punch Stink?
From the moment you start your training in Wing Chun you are taught the proper way to throw a straight punch.
I will admit at first the punch doesn’t look that intimidating. You might even hear a few “hardcore” type fighters talking down about the Wing Chun punch.
I think the disconnection happens because the person throwing the punch doesn’t know how to connect the body correctly and they are too tense when they are throwing the punch.
Sifu Phu likes to say that a good Wing Chun punch is like stabbing someone with a needle or with a knife. A proper straight punch is indeed very painful, just ask anyone who has been hit by one.
You really do need a practice partner to gauge your progress. If you punch correctly the person will feel that punch maybe even hours later.
Sifu Todd does a great job at explaining how the Wing Chun punch should feel as well as how it shouldn’t feel.
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TEMPA W says
March 7, 2017 at 12:01 amThanks Sifu Larry.
Sifu Larry Rivera says
March 7, 2017 at 12:11 pmYou’re welcome!
David D says
April 3, 2017 at 8:22 pmIt looks like Todd’s size using the proper technique has an advantage. Do they make those jongs in a material that won’t explode when I hit it?
Sije Jamie Pelaez says
April 4, 2017 at 3:13 pmHey David, Todd’s size definitely is not an advantage nor a disadvantage. If this was his jong he would actually have it at a higher level. This is Sifu Larry’s jong which is set up for someone more around the 5’8″-5’9″. That does not mean me smaller at 5’7″ or Todd at much taller can’t use it, it would be like me playing someone taller and him playing someone smaller. In NDN size and strength become a non-issue though. Since neither Sifu Phu or Sifu Larry have made any of their jongs explode, I’d say you are more than safe with a standard jong, check out our recommendations here: https://entershaolin.com/recommended
David D says
April 4, 2017 at 5:13 pmI’m sure Phu understands the physics. If you have a pencil hitting a point, and a sledge hammer hitting a point, the force of the sledge hammer will cause more damage. I understand the punch and technique ( concentration on the contact point and the drive and acceleration)but like Phu says “when you have two people of the same skill level, the quicker one wins”. In the video demonstration with Todd hitting Phu, using the same proper technique, I believe it is fair to say that the weight of Todd’s arm would be an advantage (factor) in the force of the punch. Peace!
Sije Jamie Pelaez says
April 4, 2017 at 7:50 pmAnd I am sure Sifu Phu would tell you the physics would also depend on the velocity and whether there was a torque or any spiraling going on… For instance throwing a bullet at someone might hurt them… But have it come from the barrel of a gun and well it’s a different story. Same bullet, but by sending it to the target a different way it went from ouch to deadly.
We don’t use strength to do what we do in Ngo Dac Na, that’s not skill. If a small weak person can’t properly use a technique on a much bigger and stronger person, then we don’t teach it. ????
Our whole system is based on physics and energy principles and making size & strength a non-issue as I already stated.
So even in your scenario if they were at the same skill, Todd’s size would only be an advantage if he tried to muscle or force and Sifu Phu didn’t know how to take advantage of his forcing and muscling, but he does… So this is still a bad example.
If they are the same skilled they would be roughly the same speed, then it come does to who makes a mistake first, but this has nothing to do with if someone is stronger/bigger. In an external art sure your example works, but internally it does not as them trying to force, muscle or put their weight on it is just going to hurt them more, not the other way around.
I can tell you, you don’t want to be hit by any one small or big that does a proper internal punch whether it’s a baby, a kid, Sifu Larry, Sifu Phu, Todd, etc. A properly executed internal anything simply just hurts. It’s not the mass that makes it hurt more, it’s the accuracy and energy behind it that hurts more. When you properly do an internal punch it doesn’t even feel like you did anything… But your opponent or partner will testify otherwise.
Peace & Blessings!
David D says
April 4, 2017 at 8:44 pmI here ya Jamie and in no way do I want to be argumentative. I am sure a kid throwing that punch correctly could cause damage. And I know Phu teaches the science of NDN. I am pretty sure the mass of bone and weight of muscle in someone’s arm is a factor. I am sure an engineer has a formula that they use in testing mechanics, etc. that would prove my point. If you are striking paper, size and strength might not matter. That is probably why Bruce Lee throw his whole body into his, what was it, a half inch punch. Something like that. No worries!
Sifu Larry Rivera says
April 5, 2017 at 10:00 amHi David, I would agree with you to an extent. The difference however is having high Sensitivity skill. Jamie is correct size doesn’t matter.
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One final thought: If you shot someone in the head they would be dead. If you smashed someone with a sledge hammer in the head the would also probably be dead. In either case the end result would be the same.
The reality is if you have 2 people of equal skill they would cancel each other out. The battle could go either way. I would say at that point it’s who ever makes a mistake first loses. This has nothing to do with size or strength.
Size and Strength only matter when you let it matter.
Guest says
March 16, 2019 at 3:40 pmCool thanks for the reminder Ive felt that before .. devastating hits.
Sije Jamie Pelaez says
April 2, 2019 at 11:44 amYou are most welcome!